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    Any chance that if Lesnar doesn’t sign a “full time contract” that he signs a part time contract and becomes the next Undertaker. Lesnar can work for a few months from the Rumble to Mania and wrestle 1-2 matches a year and be a Mania draw.

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    Depends how willing Lesnar is to work, I guess. Assuming that they go through with it and take the title off him at Mania, he no longer needs to be in the tite picture. You immediately open him up as more of a special attraction wrestler. The last time we had that with him was when we had the Cena match, Triple H feud, and Taker feud.

    I'll throw a bit of fun at this - if he re-signs I'd have him on Smackdown. You immediately open him up to a new group of top level people he hasn't really worked with before. Lesnar vs AJ II could happen. Lesnar vs Nakamura, Lesnar vs Owens, Lesnar vs Zayn - there's a bunch of people he hasn't worked with that could be there.

    If you keep him on Raw, he's not got much to work with unless he tries to elevate someone like Wyatt or Balor. And with those two you've got to start suspending disbelief in a serious way given how they've been booked. I think the only guy I'd like to see him wrestle is The Miz, for funsies. But Smackdown has a lot of opportunity for him to have new guys to work with at the top of the card.

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    I mean, you're not accounting for the fact that a draft shakeup is imminent. You don't have to move Brock to Smackdown when you can just bring guys to hm that you want him to work.

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    I would love to see Lesnar vs Owens, but you have to let Owens and Hayman have free reign over the creative control. I would love to hear them go back and forth on the mic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazyking View Post
    I mean, you're not accounting for the fact that a draft shakeup is imminent. You don't have to move Brock to Smackdown when you can just bring guys to hm that you want him to work.
    Yeah, but given what happened in the last draft when Raw pulled out pretty much anybody either in the Smackdown Main Event scene or on the cusp of it just to sit and linger in their midcard without really paying them back with anybody to replace them I'd be a bit reticent to do it again. Mostly because I'd fear that by May we'd be staring down the barrel of six months of Titus O'Neill main events or something.

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    Ha. That Titus remark is funny. Who will be Jinder 2018? Titus might not lose enough to get a good look.

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    Except while Jinder is bad in the ring, Titus is just downright cringeworthy.

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    But, I actually think Titus is somewhat charismatic, so that's something?

    My god, a Lesnar/Zayn match where Lesnar actually gave a shit would be amazing.

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    We already saw that In The Lasnar/AJ Styles match.

    The Lesnar match I want is KO vs Lesnar with KO and Heyman given complete creative control.

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    Zayn has different strengths than AJ. It'd be a completely different experience, I think.

    Is there evidence to suggest Kevin Owens is good with creative stuff? I like the guy but giving him the book seems weird. Heyman could most probably put together some compelling build if left to his own devices for a few weeks, for sure.

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    This is me totally assuming but I'm thinking KO and Sami worked their ROH feud pretty much themselves since Cornette hated Kev lol.

    You don't have to give KO and paul the book to promote a match with Brock. Just have them do their thing on promos. For some reason, i don't see it happening though.

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    Considering what a joke they made Owens out to be against Goldberg, it does seem unlikely that they have any intention of running him as any kind of threat to Lesnar at any point.

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    I also wonder if Brock does stay with WWE how much he'll work and like.... he's not getting another title reign i don't think so it opens things i guess.. but they've exhausted the big matches.

    Unless Lashley is really coming in.

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    Well, he's sure as hell not going to start working more! I'm sure they'll find him something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazyking View Post
    Cornette hated Kev lol.
    Cornette's always said he didn't hate Kev. To hear him talk, he found him frustrating because he thought he didn't really listen to a lot of what was being said to him, but to hear JC speak you can tell he always rated him as a talent. I think Owens has done quite well out of stoking up the idea that Jimmy hated him and that's become bigger than the truth, which in itself suggests he might have a good enough knowledge of psychology to have some creative talent....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mizfan View Post
    Considering what a joke they made Owens out to be against Goldberg, it does seem unlikely that they have any intention of running him as any kind of threat to Lesnar at any point.
    Owens’ promos on Goldberg were really good. The match was terrible bc Vince and Goldberg didn’t want him to take bumps yet.

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    I think the WWE still sees $ in Lesnar/Strowman happening on a bigger stage - especially if Strowman continues to develop as a talent and a "name." There's also been long-running rumors about Vince wanting a Rock/Brock match. You can probably add Batista's name to a list of guys Vince think could draw against Lesnar too.

    I buy the Lashley rumors - but I'm not 100% sold that they'll be pushing him into a Lesnar match immediately upon his arrival. Before that happens, I expect they'll want to see how the crowd reacts to him, see if he can gain some momentum, etc. I never thought they'd put Samoa Joe up against Lesnar but they did, so, Lashley/Lesnar is definitely within the realm of possibility.

    Lastly, while I think their main roster runs have been lackluster, I wouldn't discount Nakamura and/or Balor getting a match against Brock one day, especially if they heat up and if Triple H does assume more control of the booking once Vince gets more focused on XFL. While Vince may not see either guy as a headliner deserving of that role, I think Triple H believes that the way you make them into headliners is by putting them in that role...which kinda makes sense considering one could argue that Triple H's main event status was largely based on being put up against actual
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    So there's been some chatter elsewhere on the board so let's raise the discussion here.

    I'm of the opinion that it's worth keeping Lesnar around, and trying to sign him up again, until you have someone on the roster with the same kind of aura who can do the same job. And that means have them in place, not just people who have the potential to do that.

    Discuss.
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    I think its a no brainer to keep the guy, I'm always entertained by him. With that said there will never be another one of him, once in a lifetime talent or possibly generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Time View Post
    So there's been some chatter elsewhere on the board so let's raise the discussion here.

    I'm of the opinion that it's worth keeping Lesnar around, and trying to sign him up again, until you have someone on the roster with the same kind of aura who can do the same job. And that means have them in place, not just people who have the potential to do that.

    Discuss.
    i'm of the mind to keep him as well... Except, I don't know how long he wants to do it.. (probably as long as the money is right ) Plus, i'm not saying last night was a shoot, but did you damage Brock by throwing him under the bus? Thus hurting the aura he has.. I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazyking View Post
    i'm of the mind to keep him as well... Except, I don't know how long he wants to do it.. (probably as long as the money is right ) Plus, i'm not saying last night was a shoot, but did you damage Brock by throwing him under the bus? Thus hurting the aura he has.. I'm not sure.
    I'd argue it didn't hurt his aura mainly because at this point I think Brock's aura is ass kicker who is only going to show up for the big fights. Everyone knows he doesn't care for the travel. Everyone knows he isn't going to be there night in night out. The only part I've disagreed with his booking for the last year is that he can still have all that, but he doesn't need the title at the same time. Does Roman/Brock gain anything by being a title match? Not really.

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    I honestly don't get much aura off Brock anymore, but I recognize others may feel a different way. I'd be fine with losing him, but if WWE keeps him I hope his days of holding the title are done at least. The guy has spent less than 1 hour in the ring this year all told, which is pretty ridiculous.

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    To be fair, he is only making $6,000,000 a year to work 25-30 days, and travel to those locations in either a private jet or first class. That is really, really hard to do.

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    Straw poll: will Lesnar re-sign after Wrestlemania?
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    I am leaning to yes, but with a UFC contingent.

    Lesnar is NOT a dumb guy, he knows that wokring for the WWE with the way they structure his contract with limited dates and huge amounts of money would be stupid not to re-sign. BUT I see Lesnar getting another 3 year deal with the one caveat being that he can take a few months off to fight one more UFC match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Time View Post
    Straw poll: will Lesnar re-sign after Wrestlemania?
    I think the real question might be - will people care if he does or doesn't? Re-signing is good for Lesnar, but realistically there's not much mileage left in him for WWE at this stage. Unless they're going to bring in someone new, or at least fresh, to face him, he's kind of worked every talent we might have wanted to see him go toe to toe with on Raw.

    A move to Smackdown could be really interesting, mind you...

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    There is always Lashley and a Strowman beatdown left for Lesnar to do.

    Plus a rematch with AJ Styles.

    With Lesnar's contract/schedule, those three fueds could last almost 2 years.

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    Lesnar will resign because WWE will throw money at him again. He's their favorite money pit.

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    And there a signifiganctly less chance of getting hurt. Lesnar is 40 with kids, why would he want to take a chance at really getting hurt in the Octagon?

    There is a bigger payday in UFC, but not as easy. Show up to work for what? 40 days a year and most of those are “stand around and look intimidating while Paul speaks” for 3-6 million a year.....no brainer.

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    Sounds like he's going to be doing it alongside UFC if he does sign with the WWE again. White saying he's going to fight again and obviously he needs to be in the drug testing pool for six months or so before he can. At his age I imagine the clock on that starts sooner rather than later.
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    Given his contractural situation, most people had Brock losing at Mania. But, for the second time in a similar situation, he didn't.

    What does The Beast do now? Who's next to visit Suplex City? And has he re-signed?

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    I think Brock is losing the title either tomorrow or the show in Saudi arabia. I believe Brock's contract is up at Summerslam cause it was frozen when he left to fight in UFC.. He'll lose to either Roman or lashley

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    I think Brock is losing the title either tomorrow or the show in Saudi arabia. I believe Brock's contract is up at Summerslam cause it was frozen when he left to fight in UFC.. He'll lose to either Roman or lashley
    That's interesting, I didn't think about it being frozen for the UFC fight. Just assumed he could do that in between WWE appearances. I guess whether it was frozen or he resigned will come out soon but last night did leave me with a "ok, who can beat Brock" question. He's plowed through Cena, Orton, Ambrose, Reigns, Joe and Strowman..... I question whether they'd have Lashley come in out of nowhere and beat him. All due respect to Impact, but given their viewership and Lashley being out of WWE almost a decade and being over 40 it would be odd to me.

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    If you put the belt on Lashley you're going to have Goldberg -> Lesnar -> Lashley in the record books as having held the Universal title for, what, 18 months? 2 years? It would be nice for it to actually be on someone who's going to be there every week and not split for something else the moment they drop the title.

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    Samoa Joe coming back tonight and taking the title, would be awesome.

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    Samoa Joe coming back tonight and taking the title, would be awesome.
    Joe and Styles are my two favorite wrestlers this generation (since 2005), I would mark out HUGE if Joe came back and choked him out for the belt.

    I was surprised Lesnar won last night but after thinking about it, more surprising to me was HOW he won. He mauled Reigns and really made him look weak despite the multiple F5 kickouts.

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    I'm way more into Lashley than Lesnar at this point, but I see no chance that he comes in and wins the belt.

    Let's be honest, he probably resigned for more money and even less dates. He'll defend the title again at the next 'Mania and not a day before!

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    I'm way more into Lashley than Lesnar at this point, but I see no chance that he comes in and wins the belt.

    Let's be honest, he probably resigned for more money and even less dates. He'll defend the title again at the next 'Mania and not a day before!
    I really have no issue with Lashley, I'd just be surprised if THAT is the guy that dethrones Lesnar. But as I said earlier, at this point I don't know who can.

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    Lesnar should come out and gloat tonight, and say he is leaving for the UFC with the Uni Title, and Angle comes out and says before you leave you have one more match, tonight and it is against....

    Either Braun or Joe

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    Lol at the 'report' that Brock may have went off script (the elbows to bloody Reigns I assume) and had a verbal altercation with Vince, threw the belt at him.


    If that's true, I don't feel bad for Vince at all. its his own fault. I wouldn't be surprised if Brock just leaves and is stripped and they put the the title on the line in the Saudi rumble

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