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    Love the original. My viewing of the rest of the Elm Street series has been very scattered, to the point where I can't say for sure which others I've seen at the moment. I do want to take a run at the whole series at some point though, as the idea of Freddy is a spectacular one. I do recall seeing the remake, which at the time I thought was not terrible but seemed to lose a lot of what made Freddy special.

    As I mentioned in the general movie thread, recently caught the new Saw film and enjoyed it as a solid, if not mind blowing addition to the series. I've been a big fan of the franchise because I enjoy how creative it is, not just in the actual traps and the reasons behind them but also in terms of general long term storytelling. I don't know of any other horror series that connects its films together so well. That also makes them hard to rank, because many of them depend on other installments in the series to fully click. For example, 4 is much better if you have recently watched 3 (and also 2 to some extent), and anything after 4 benefits a lot from being watched in order. The original Saw remains the clear best of the bunch, but after that it's tougher to say which is best. I strongly recommend watching the whole thing, if you don't mind the gore along the way.

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    When you do get around to watching the Nightmare series, I strongly recommend following it up with the Never Sleep Again documentary. It helps gain an appreciation for the flicks on a different level, really, as well as just being incredibly fucking good.

    Speaking of, I've been watching a fair amount of horror documentaries lately. Nightmares In Red, White and Blue, Blood On the Reels, Doc of the Dead, Unearthed & Untold: The Path to Pet Sematary and revisiting both Never Sleep Again and Crystal Lake Memories, the latter two of which I think are the blatant high water marks for docs that cover the subject. I even found a pretty solid doc that covered the making of the original Scream trilogy on YouTube recently, though I didn't catch the name.

    Anyone got any favorites worth mentioning? I really, really want to see the Leviathan documentary about the making of the first two Hellraiser flicks but I can't seem to find it anywhere legal or affordable.

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    By and large I'm not a documentary guy, but I just might check out that Nightmare one when I finally get to the series.

    I'm also on the verge of watching through the whole Halloween series, that's always been a favorite of mine but I've never given the whole thing a proper watch. Going to skip over Halloween III since I've seen it and it also has nothing to do with anything, though I don't think it's a bad movie. Probably gonna skip the Rob Zombie reboots too, I saw the first one and didn't care for it at all. I know some are into Zombie as a director (looking at you, Steve) but he doesn't really do it for me.

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    Zombie's films are hit and miss with me. I like the gritty sensibility he brings to the table, as it elicits the feel of 70s exploitation horror, which I'm a selective fan of. Even those I don't care for, I dig the vibe and look. It just feels uncomfortably "real", you know? Zombie kinda nails that vibe in his stuff.

    I do dig most of his movies, though Lords of Salem was shit. I felt like I'd just wasted like 90 minutes of my life after sitting through that one. I was pleasantly surprised by his latest, 31.

    As far as the Halloween ones go, if you didn't like the first then you probably won't like the sequel. Halloween 2 did take a bit too much shit, though, I felt. It veered too far away from the originals to click with some people, what with Michael being a giant bearded hobo with a ripped up mask and shit, but it did have some strong points. I really felt that the portrayal of Laurie's PTSD after the events of the first flick was really good and a strong direction to take the movie into.

    Basically, I'd have probably loved Rob's two Halloweens if they had simply not been Halloween flicks and instead introduced a new slasher or whatever. They work really well in tandem, but just don't click as part of the franchise as a whole.

    As far as the originals, I personally really dig parts 4 and 5 (moreso 4). I recently picked up the elusive Producer's Cut of Halloween 6 that hardcore fans begged for years to be released but have yet to watch it and see if it made the movie any better.

    As a warning, Resurrection is kind of a piece of shit outside of the first 10 minutes or so. Still worth checking out just to do so, but upon seeing it you recognize completely why they turned the franchise over to Zombie afterwards. Hell, it actually made me appreciate Rob's take more than I probably would've.

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    Uncomfortably real is a great way to put it for Zombie, which is a turn off for me.

    Dig the breakdown in the series. Thinking back I'm pretty sure I've seen at least part of every movie but I really want to put the pieces together. Fully expect the later ones to dip in quality but I think there'll be some fun stuff there too. Is 4 and 5 the one with Laurie's daughter? I always thought that looked interesting but wasn't sure I fully got it due to the choppy way I watched the series over the years.

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    Yeah, 4 and 5 are with Laurie's daughter, played by future scream queen in her own right, Danielle Harris. They're fairly solid, though 4 is pretty clearly superior. Those two are very much more in line with the other movies of the late-80s era of horror. Less about atmosphere and suspense, more about body count and all that. Still really fun flicks, though. I'll be interested to hear your take after you make your way through them.

    Same still goes for the Nightmare flicks. I definitely want to hear what you thought of them, as well as Never Sleep Again if you dig into it.

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    I will definitely revisit this thread when I do! Halloween is up first but knowing my schedule, god knows how long it'll take for me to get through it all, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizfan View Post
    Caught the new Saw film this past weekend. I doubt it will do much for anyone who isn't a fan of the series, but I've always really enjoyed the franchise so it was pretty cool for me to finally have a new installment. I know many dismiss it as "torture porn" but I always disagreed with that label, at least to some extent. Saw films are all about people who have a chance to escape unscathed (or only partially scathed) but fail to do so through their own selfishness or bad choices. Yes, sometimes people die badly, but at least there's an element of struggle and conflict. It's not like Hostel or something, where the film is mostly close ups of horrible things happening to people with no real chance of escaping them, just a loving tribute to actual torture.

    Anyway, the new one pretty much had the elements I look for in a Saw film. Creative traps, a story that unfolded in an interesting way with at least one unexpected element, and a nice balance between those trapped and those trying to solve the mystery. I'm not sure what I think of the prospective new protagonist, as their attitude didn't seem quite in line with the original themes of the series, but I also think that's something that might be addressed further in future installments. Another thing the series has been good at historically is continuity and interconnectivity between films, so I'm hoping that continues as well.
    Just finished it myself. Am intrigued as to what was the unexpected element for you? As a fan of the series it's taught me to either expect the obvious or expect the outcome least obvious. It's never in between. So the new protagonist was rather obvious to me and with all the clues going on in the film it could have only of been who it was. I like how they kept Kramer in the story. As there is no Jigsaw without him. But I feel that certainly gave away the way this instalment was going to play out and it was too obvious for my liking. Not sure if I'd really want to see another. As I said there isn't Jigsaw without Kramer. But it needs to have no Kramer moving forward if there was to be another. Oh and the final kill is my favourite of the whole franchise. It looked amazing.

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    It took me a bit of time to work out who the new killer would be, and the trick with the time jump, so even though I got them both down before the reveal I appreciated that they made me work for it a bit. Definitely like keeping Kramer in the film, amazing how much they've gotten out of him despite killing him off in the 3rd film! Final kill was definitely cool, though like I said I thought it went a bit against the spirit of the franchise.

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    Hope it's okay, have moved the above posts in here as a kickstart to this thread.

    It's not my genre as you guys know, but from the outside looking in it looked like a bumper year for horror movies. That you guys experience?



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    I thought it was a great year for horror films. And It is my favourite film this year by quite a margin.

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    Yes, greatly enjoyed It, and Get Out even more so. Also really liked Happy Death Day and Split too, and a few others too. Definitely a strong year for horror. Lots of people liked It Comes At Night and Raw too, though those weren't so much to my taste.

    Also recently rewatched the first two Halloween movies. When I was young I liked the second one better, but seeing them now back to back it's pretty clear the first one is more atmospheric and suspenseful, and with better developed characters. It is slower, which is surely why II appealed to me more as a teen, but yeah, interesting how your perspective changes. Still a big fan of both, and excited to keep going through the series.

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    Probably gonna check out Winchester this upcoming Tuesday. I get the sense it's gonna be bog-standard horror stuff and may ultimately end up forgettable, but I've always been interested in the Winchester house and the story behind it so that has me hooked. Really hoping it manages to placate me until Annihilation and A Quiet Place come out, looking forward to those two, A Quiet Place in particular.

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