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    That's interesting, because I read it's gross dropped dramatically in week 2. Though that could be a Christmas thing of course.

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    Partly that, and partly that there aren't 50 screenings a day on anymore. The ones that are, though, are still busier than most other movies. Seems that way anyway.

    The Mrs loved it, she said.



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    I saw it in Cardiff in a half empty cinema on Boxing Day (I’ve seen every Star Wars movie with my family and this was our first day together).

    I thought it was okay. No better or worse really. The last 20 minutes were very well done. The middle was overly long and tedious. The character building, as aforementioned by others ranged from dreadful. The living character I like best is a villain which surely shouldn’t be the case? He has a Snape esque ability and charm the lead heroes lack. In fact, all the villain scenes for me were better and more enjoyable.

    I’d have cut 20 minutes from the film, utilised the new stars better and not rely on aging part timers as much.

    Star Wars and the WWE have a lot of the same problems. Old stars being involved, underdeveloped new talent and relying on spots when they should be telling a story.

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    Bloody part timers!

    I think the director of Last Jedi made the concious decision to try and phase them out, we'll see what happens in number 9 but I think the next trilogy is in good hands.

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    I think that's a much more fair description of the Force Awakens than of The Last Jedi.



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    For once, we agree Prime! 'nony always brings people together!

    So I referenced in an older post that I still had some issues with it, even after falling in love on the second viewing.

    Space Leia still drove me nuts. I get what they were going for, but I just can't quite push myself to believe she could last so much as thirty seconds in space, let alone as long as she does before using the Force. Had no problem with the fact she used the Force, mind; I thought that was cool. The rendition of her theme was lush as well.

    The casino stuff is really quite naff, and what bothers me most is why they didn't use Lando to cameo as the code breaker? This really struck me the second time round. The way Moz describes the code breaker fits Lando to an absolute tee, and using an older character in such a random spot might have made it feel less of an under-developed and forced idea. Less of a plot contrivance. You wouldn't have even needed to alter the narrative; just literally throw Billy Dee Williams in there for all of thirty seconds then continue you on as you were. Or better yet, change the narrative; use Lando. I don't know; that whole sojourn still felt like a means to get Finn to fight Phasma and so still didn't hang too well for me. I did find it somewhat more palatable the second time though.

    The massive plot holes I can forgive, because you get them in Star Wars films like clockwork really. And the humour came off less garish this time; at least the stuff they did with Kylo. I thought he was scarier than funnier when he was torturing poor Hux in the cockpit at the end, actually.

    Ultimately, Wars films are about the emotion more than the science. So it's like Qui-Gon says; the best way to watch The Last Jedi, and any of them, is to "feel; don't think." And, man, does Episode VIII make me feel. Some wonderful character moments throughout. Powerful stuff. Can't wait to watch as part of the Machete Order!
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    I had a far better opinion of the casino stuff the second time around actually. Completely agreed the first time that it felt bolted on but it made much more sense to me that second time.

    Was initially thinking of merging this with the main thread around the end of the month, but now thinking perhaps it needs the spoiler warning up a little bit longer than that - what do you think?



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    Yeah, I'd leave it for the time being just in case!

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    You know what Sammy? I'm in love with the Luke storyline now after a 3rd viewing. There were a few things I didn't put two and two together after the 2nd viewing but now I've seen it again I think it was beautifully done and the only way it could be done.

    Take it further back to Empire and then after what happened in The Force Awakens there was no other choice for his story to go the way it did in The Last Jedi. In Empire while Luke is training with Yoda he can sense across the galaxy that Han and Leia are in danger before it even happens and stops his training even when he's told he's not ready to try to go and save them. Which ties in to The Force Awakens and why didn't Luke sense Han was in danger again? That's a big thing I don't think a lot of people really thought about after The Force Awakens or even now after The Last Jedi. I never saw one person say why didn't Luke try to save Han in The Force Awakens. It seemed to be an afterthought. But really it should have been the biggest question coming out of The Force Awakens. Not who were the parents of Rey. Or why Kylo turned to the dark side. Or the backstory of Snoke. But why didn't Luke try to save Han?

    In The Last Jedi I didn't really put it together when Luke asks "Where's Han?" And now after the 3rd viewing it all clicked. There obviously had to be a reason for him not knowing and I feel silly for not putting it together the first time. It makes it that much more sad for me when Rey realises that Luke has cut himself off from the force. It's beautifully written and played out. He thinks he's doing the right thing and being heroic by cutting himself off from the force. You have who is the most powerful force user in the galaxy cutting himself off from the force as he fears he'll do more harm than good. I love how this movie makes us as fans all see the same thing and see it in a different way. But it's not just the fans. It's the characters too.

    The scene with Rey and Kylo in the elevator, they see the same thing, but both come to different conclusions. The scene with Luke and Kylo where Luke goes to confront him is what I think is the most heartbreaking scene in the movie. It gives us as fans three different scenarios. The first time we see it Luke simply goes to confront him. No lightsaber is pulled out. No hint of Luke having a flash of doubt that he needs to kill him. That's clearly the way Luke wishes it has gone. The next time we see it is from Kylo's POV. He has no doubt in his mind Luke arrives to kill him. He makes himself out to be the hero and Luke the bad guy. Not just a bad guy though but completely engulfed in wanting to kill him. The colour of his eyes are different. His lightsaber isn't green. And the last time we see it is from Luke's POV which has parts of the first two scenarios interlocked in it. This is the version of the story I believe to be true and the version of the story that I think fits Luke's character perfectly. Like every hero they're afraid of being an impostor. They have more self doubt than villains. Luke goes to check on Kylo and sees a darkness greater than he thought possible. Where all his loved ones are killed. Where the Jedi are all killed. That's where it ties back into Empire because the last time he saw that was when Vader taunted him with it. And how did Luke react? Out of instinct. Rage. Anger. But he stopped himself from doing what he said he wouldn't do and that's kill his own Father. So when Luke goes to see Kylo he sees these images again. And he reacts out of instinct. And that's what scares him and make himself ashamed and feels like he's failed. As fans we know he wouldn't have killed Kylo. But Kylo doesn't know that. He thinks he was about to be killed. And that's why Luke decides it's the best thing to end the Jedi and cut himself off from the force. There is always going to be good vs evil fighting for control of power and from Luke's POV the constant was the Jedi's. Without them there would be no Vader. No Kylo. Instead of training up new Jedi to defeat Kylo or defeat him himself he simply disconnects from the force and ends that cycle. The end of the movie is perfect because Luke learns from his mistakes. You don't need violence to solve the problems. During his "duel" with Kylo you'll notice their lightsabers never meet. Luke is over the violence. He wants it to end.

    I don't think they could have gone any other way with Luke and I believe it was beautifully done.

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    Darkness rises...

    And now the light to meet it.

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    According to Ron Howard the new Hand Solo movie trailer is a week or so away (soon anyway). Read the release date is late May.



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    I'm reading it might be getting pushed back until December, which wouldn't shock me considering we're apparently four months out and haven't seen so much as a hint of a trailer yet. Not to mention news of another round of potential reshoots might be getting underway soon.

    Honestly, the mess of a production this has been coupled with my absolute lack of desire to see a "Han Solo origin film" - the very sentence is idiotic - really increases the likelihood of me going so far as giving this a miss completely while it's at the cinema; unless it gets great word of mouth.
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    Going to merge this a few weeks after it's gone from my local cinema.

    That said, someone we know wanted to go again so just seen Last Jedi for the third time, and do you know what? I like it more every time I see it. Considering I was pretty high on it the first time, that's saying something. I'm now at the point where I think it stands up against anything in the franchise and honestly, I didn't think I would ever think that again.



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    I felt the same way about the casino section as some others in the thread but will say, watch it again. It becomes clear that like the rest of the film it is essential to plot and C.D.

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    The teaser trailer for the Solo movie is out, and we've got a release date. 28th May, 2018.

    Anyway, based on the video, what do people think so far?




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    Having been on the fence as to whether I was even going to bother, there's enough there to push me into the cinema for it. There's also enough there to keep me extremely wary and a little cynical.

    Whoever asked for a Han Solo origin film I'll never know. Just another nostalgia kick, and one that's got a mountain to climb following Rogue One - which, while nostalgic, ultimately proved to have an emotionally impactful, meaningful story to tell of its own.

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    Solo was always my favorite character as a kid so I am wanting to see it. Especially if it shows the meeting with Chewie

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